Subscribe via Email

Now Reading

Technorati Profile

« miracles happen anyhow | Main | wait, wait, waiting for my fairy prince »

Feb 12, 2008

Comments

Marilyn

Can't wait to see how this idea unfolds for you...

Rita Patel

lovely, can't wait to be a part of it!

arkieology

Pound spent a good deal of his time in the teens, 1914 to 1921, being the chief co-writer of a magazine called the New Age with A. R. Orage. In addition to publishing poets and literary criticism, they championed the ideas of Social Credit founder C. H. Douglas, German-Argentinian anarcho-economist Sylvio Gesell, American monetary theorist Alexander Del Mar, and Physicist turned economist Frederick Soddy. Douglas's chief solution to the economic problem was the citizen's dividend, an unconditional payment to all citizens, and Gesell's invention of Stamp Scrip, money that deteriorates over time. The Cantos are a trip into the hell of the modern world of money, but he left a road map for the way out, the chief vehicle being the universal citizen's dividend. In this way, not just his friends like Eliot, who dedicated The Wasteland to Pound, but the entire human race would be free to follow their muse.

Christina  (@doublespiral)

As a very happy Kiva financier, I am very interested in this project! It sounds like a really great idea. Please keep me posted and let me know how and when I can get involved. I'd really like to help in any way I can!

Christina  (@doublespiral)

One more thought: This reminds me of a part of my philosophy on how to make the world work better for everyone. For too long, society has spent it's time and energy trying to legislate against everything we don't want, so the focus is predominantly on the negative. Always focusing on the negative only begets more negative. We will truly make the world a better place by creating opportunity, encouraging goodness and beauty and supporting the things we want to see more of in the world. It's about living in line with what we mean to encourage, rather that what we want to eradicate.

Evelyn Rodriguez

Thanks, Christina,
I loved this: "It's about living in line with what we mean to encourage, rather that what we want to eradicate."

BTW, @MarilynM sent me this quote: "You never change things by fighting existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." - Buckminster Fuller

Ark, I could write pages (and I did in my hipster laptop, aka journal) in response, but quickly, I'm more about changing coming from us individually holographically, rather than reforming what's "out there." So I spend time on the Hawaiian shamanic method of H'oponopono or Byron Katie's The Work, and Jung's shadow and projection work. Funny, as I hadn't even read the entire Ezra Pound chapter when I wrote this post, as I finished it recently I see that the author dug into the Jungian shadow side of Pound in a very intriguing way. I'd love to send you a copy of 25th anniversary edition of The Gift if you send me your address.

We can all follow the muse, and it doesn't have anything at all to do with money, as I write on the dollar bills, "don't forget YOU are music." Hip-hop and graffiti and break-dancing had its start in the grimmest time of South Bronx history. I wrote my "40 days of rapture" effortlessly in my journal at the brink of facing my fear of starvation; I decided to reframe it as a fast, I modeled after Jesus' 40 day fast in the desert.

In fact, now that I've pitched this idea to a few other people and put it out there, I'm less inclined to make it about raising MONEY, and more about how to collectively chip in with resources, time, and connections to move projects forward in a community-minded manner.

arkieology

I hope we are agreeing, because I take such great inspiration from your writings and your quest. What I am attempting to do is follow Bucky's dictum of model making and not to change what's out there, but to create something new that can promote and sustain community and life and love on our planet. Bucky's last book, the Grunch of Giants, (Gross Universal Cash Heist) was about the great beasts that have been loosed on the planet that devour the resources that would sustain communities. I have attempted to make a new model of money, salmoney, that does just that. Pound and Buckminster Fuller were key sources in the making of that model, as you were a key inspiration at times that kept me on the quest for the grail. I just believe that there are people on the earth who are kept from doing what they are inspired to do by the way money is now used. Pound and Fuller believed the same, but they did not leave it at criticism of what was, they searched hard for new and at times old ways that would create a new ground of being for human interaction. I am not waiting for monetary permission to pursue my quest, but I also know that whatever poverty and economic hardship I have is by choice, not necessity.

I have created a new kind of money, not because I need it to pursue my destiny, but because my destiny was to pursue a new kind of money. I believe its source to be VALIS, vast active living intelligent system, and I also believe that it does exactly the kind of things that you seek in your models. So thanks E, for all you do, and I'm so glad you're still doing it. And I will keep doing what I am doing. My book "Redeeming Money" is available for free download on lulu.com. Pound and Fuller and you all figure prominently in it.

Namaste. And I will send you my address via e-mail and would love to read The Gift.

My favorite system of old times was the Potlatch, which was an economic system based on large celebrations in which the host worked years to prepare a feast and gifts for all attendees, and then gave everything away. The Indigenous People lived a quite beautiful life on the Puget Sound until the "Christian" missionaries outlawed their feasts.

shooting flash games

I hope we are agreeing, because I take such great inspiration from your writings and your quest. What I am attempting to do is follow Buckys dictum of model making and not to change whats out there, but to create something new that can promote and sustain community and life and love on our planet. Buckys last book, the Grunch of Giants, (Gross Universal Cash Heist) was about the great beasts that have been loosed on the planet that devour the resources that would sustain communities. I have attempted to make a new model of money, salmoney, that does just that. Pound and Buckminster Fuller were key sources in the making of that model, as you were a key inspiration at times that kept me on the quest for the grail. I just believe that there are people on the earth who are kept from doing what they are inspired to do by the way money is now used. Pound and Fuller believed the same, but they did not leave it at criticism of what was, they searched hard for new and at times old ways that would create a new ground of being for human interaction. I am not waiting for monetary permission to pursue my quest, but I also know that whatever poverty and economic hardship I have is by choice, not necessity.

I have created a new kind of money, not because I need it to pursue my destiny, but because my destiny was to pursue a new kind of money. I believe its source to be VALIS, vast active living intelligent system, and I also believe that it does exactly the kind of things that you seek in your models. So thanks E, for all you do, and Im so glad youre still doing it. And I will keep doing what I am doing. My book Redeeming Money is available for free download on lulu.com. Pound and Fuller and you all figure prominently in it.

Namaste. And I will send you my address via e-mail and would love to read The Gift.

My favorite system of old times was the Potlatch, which was an economic system based on large celebrations in which the host worked years to prepare a feast and gifts for all attendees, and then gave everything away. The Indigenous People lived a quite beautiful life on the Puget Sound until the Christian missionaries outlawed their feasts.
+1

The comments to this entry are closed.

My Photo

February 2014

Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
            1
2 3 4 5 6 7 8
9 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28  
Blog powered by Typepad