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Jun 09, 2005

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Lei/Cottontimer

I love your approach. I recently joined the About Weblogs Network and started the Genetics and Public Blog (http://www.aboutweblogs.com/genetics). Although the Network IS for profit, it still believes in providing high quality content first. Every blogger on the Network is blogging about their passion and if it happens to make them a little money, then all the better! The Gen/PH Blog is probably the least amenable to monetizing than the other blogs on the Network, e.g., scrapbooking, stamping, etc., but I think I'm getting a lot more out of it than just money.

BTW, since there is nothing wrong with trying to make a living, if anyone is interested in making money online, another blogger on the Network has a Make Money Online Blog that might be useful (http://www.aboutweblogs.com/makemoney/).

Lei/Cottontimer

Sorry, those links seem a little messed up.

http://www.aboutweblogs.com/genetics
http://www.aboutweblogs.com/makemoney

Evelyn Rodriguez

I just wanted to clarify that THIS blog is not driven primarily by a profit motive. Many of the greatest revolutions - the Renaissance comes to mind - have not been either. Having been in the periphery of the blogging phenonemon (first, a reader; "I don't have time to blog") since early 2001, I know its emergence was strongly driven by the Hacker Ethic. Obviously, after Engelbart, McCarthy, Moore and others, more folks came in and productized the vision and research into the likes of Alta, Apple, Microsoft.

That said, besides inspiration to keep going, I also like to have conversations here about funding our "art" (whatever that may be) and marketing it while staying true to our voice. The blogging for passion concept by About you mention is extremely interesting - it echoes some ideas about providing a living for "artists" I have swirling around. I'm not against making a living, but I'm that's not what I am doing with THIS blog.

Lei/Cottontimer

Evelyn, Anyone who has read your blog for even a week would know that your blog is not driven by profit. At least not profit via blogging. :)

Shawn

If you want to understand personal media/citizen's media/grassroots media, it would behoove one to understand the Hacker Ethic that predates bloggers by nearly forty years.

I think the same applies for the Open Source Software Movement as well.

Mar Junge

Evelyn,
Funny that many of the panel members at BizWire's Blogging Seminar were concerned about the "Marketing Model" of their blogs. Let's set the record straight at tomorrow's roundtable.

Evelyn Rodriguez

Lei, You're right. My point is it's good to understand the roots of personal computing back in late sixties as the original foundation behind the spirit of personal media. Many bloggers aren't necessarily driven by the same motivations as that of big-J journalists.

Mar, I certainly have models for companies and businesses depending on their objectives; this particular blog, as are many, is a personal "outlet". I stopped long ago compartmentalizing my life into separate buckets for business, life, pleasure, love, spirit, etc. You get the whole package deal (for good or bad) when you come here!

Shawn, Yep. The Hacker Ethic predates the Open Source movement. All that set stage for blogosphere as we know it. At the event, Dennis Allison, co-founder of the Peoples Computer and founder of Dr. Dobbs Journal, Company thanked Jim Warren (in audience), the first editor, for paving the way on the ideas that are roots of open source movement. Lee Felsenstein, designer of the Sol and Osborne 1, piped up and added that "the ethos of sharing that I even originally derided pays off in the end. 'They' said that open source would never work." Basically Markoff's book is a nod & acknowledgement to the spirit and thinking that led to personal computing, open source, peer-to-peer [not just files] sharing such as Napster, Flickr, del.icio.us, blogosphere, etc. etc.

Jim Warren

Uh, just a small(?) correction. Several comments here have referenced personal computing as starting in the sixties. Nay, nay!

Yes, much of the hippie/utopian SPIRIT of the '60s was apparent throughout much of the early development in personal computing, especially in the San Franciso Bay Area.

But the first microprocessor wasn't invented until th early '70s'; the Homebrew Computer Club (the first such club in the world) didn't hold it's first meeting until Mar. 5, 1975 (32 people in Gordon French's garage); the first issue of BYTE wasn't until Sep., 1975 ... and the phrase, "personal computing" wasn't even used until 1976. (And I didn't hold the First West Coast Computer Faire unti Apr. 15-17, 1977.)

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